Tuesday, April 15, 2014
Law Vegas Review-Journal writes
That part about the tape and the beating to send a message likely is not true.
“They gave him lunch and let him out,” Stetsy Cox, 21, told the assembled group of relatives and sympathizers at a rally for the embattled ranch family near the banks of the Virgin River.I heard on Friday that the Feds snatched the son, beat him up, taped the beating and released the tape.
In downtown Las Vegas a short time later, Dave Bundy spoke to the media about his arrest the day before in the federal roundup of his father’s cattle from public land 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.
The 37-year-old said heavily armed federal agents roughed him up and arrested him for exercising his constitutional rights on a state highway in northeast Clark County on Sunday.
“They got on their loudspeaker and said that everyone needed to leave,” Dave Bundy said during an impromptu news conference alongside his father outside a 7-Eleven on Las Vegas Boulevard. “I stood there and continued to express my First Amendment right to protest, and they approached me and said that if I didn’t leave, they’d arrest me.”
The younger Bundy said he was taking photographs and protesting peacefully at the time.
Natalie Collins, a spokeswoman for the Nevada U.S. attorney’s office, said Bundy was cited on misdemeanor charges of “refusing to disperse” and resisting arrest.
Earlier, BLM spokeswoman Kirsten Cannon said Bundy was taken into custody to “protect public safety and maintain the peace.”
“The Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service support the public’s right to express opinions peacefully and lawfully. However, if an individual threatens, intimidates or assaults another individual or impedes the impoundment, they may be arrested in accordance with local, state or Federal laws,” Cannon said in a statement.
Cliven Bundy viewed his son’s arrest differently.
“What’s happening is they had stole cattle from me, and now they have taken their prisoner,” the father said. “Davey is a political prisoner. That’s what you want to call him — he’s a political prisoner.”
That sentiment appeared on several handmade protest signs at Monday’s rally, which drew more than 100 people to a tract of private ranch land next to the Riverside bridge on state Route 170.
The crowd gathered in response to an announcement Cliven Bundy sent Sunday night, after his son’s arrest, promising a range war and inviting the press to come cover it.
But Monday’s event wound up looking more like a barn-raising.
After a prayer and some speeches, the group walked up a nearby hill and gathered along the highway on land owned by one of Bundy’s neighbors. There they erected two 50-foot flag poles topped with metal script letters reading “We the People” and strung with a huge banner, the American flag and the flags of Nevada and Clark County.
They plan to use this spot as a rallying point for daily protests.
As they worked, cattle trucks escorted by BLM patrol vehicles kicked up dust along dirt roads in the distance.
Federal agents and contract cowboys — both on the ground and in the air, with at least one helicopter — expected to spend the next month or so rounding up Bundy’s herd, which could include more than 900 animals scattered over a remote, 90-mile swath of mountains and desert south of Mesquite.
The BLM and the National Park Service have closed off public access to almost 600,000 acres of federal land for the roundup.
Bundy considers much of that public land to use as he sees fit, but the BLM canceled his federal grazing permit 20 years ago after the rancher refused to accept new land-use rules for protecting the threatened desert tortoise and stopped paying his fees.
In the decades since, Bundy has challenged or ignored repeated directives from the government to remove his livestock from public land.
Two federal court orders issued within the last year authorized authorities to impound the “trespass cattle.”
The operation got underway Saturday morning and brought in 234 head of cattle through Monday.
Dave Bundy showed a Review-Journal reporter his scratched face and swollen, scraped hands while describing his arrest.
“Without any further questions, two rangers surrounded and a third one approached me, and they all jumped me, pulling different directions. And then a couple other guys jumped in, and they took me to the ground,” Dave Bundy said.
He said, “One ranger had had his knee on my spine, and the other one was on my head with his knee on the side of my head and his other knee on the back of my neck.”
Dave Bundy maintains his arrest was improper because he was standing along the side of Route 170 in a state right-of-way. BLM officials said the right-of-way is under their jurisdiction and within an area their agency had closed to the public.
When asked about Dave Bundy’s allegations of mistreatment, federal officials pointed to the charges for which he was cited, including resisting arrest.
Cliven Bundy was in Las Vegas early Monday to meet with Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie, but it had nothing to do with his son’s arrest. Gillespie said their meeting was arranged on Saturday.
Bundy wanted contact information for Metro supervisors in his area, Gillespie said, and the sheriff provided him the information. But Gillespie reiterated that the Metropolitan Police Department has no plans to involve itself in the roundup.
“This is strictly a federal operation,” he said.
In a statement released Monday, the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association also distanced itself from Bundy and his livestock, noting that it supports effective range management and cooperation among agencies to balance ranching and the conservation of wildlife.
Though “sensitive and concerned how the Bundy cattle confiscation situation has evolved,” association leaders want no part of the dispute between the rancher and the federal courts.
“Nevada Cattlemen’s Association does not feel it is in our best interest to interfere in the process of adjudication in this matter,” the association said.
Back at the rally, Bundy’s immediate family members served Sloppy Joes for lunch and supplied their supporters with cold drinks and popsicles. No firearms were spotted in the crowd.
Margaret Houston, Cliven Bundy’s younger sister, drove up from Logandale, at the southern edge of the temporary closure area, to take part in the protest. She said she hates to see the federal land outside her back door closed to the public while her family’s livelihood is gathered up and trucked away.
“I grew up on this ranch. This is what we knew,” she said. “It’s got nothing to do with the cattle and the tortoises. It’s about taking our rights — power — and it’s wrong.”
A few miles up the road, a “First Amendment Area” the BLM set up for rallies like this stood empty, save for a few signs attached to the outside of the orange plastic pen.
One of them read: “1st Amendment is not an area.”
That part about the tape and the beating to send a message likely is not true.
Prepper Chimp says
Things are getting heated near the rural Nevada ranch of Cliven Bundy. Mr. Bundy has called out for help and now it appears more and more unorganized militia are going to Bundy’s ranch. What is “unorganized militia” you might ask? There is a legal definition:Steve Crane reacts:
10 U.S. Code § 311 – Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
Unorganized Militia are in essence every armed and able-bodied American not in the Regular Army, Navy, Air Force or Marines or their reserves and also not in the organized militia which is the modern day National Guard of each state.
The Federal Government is not in the business of capitulating to armed groups of people so this could escalate to a violent level. Ideally the Nevada State National Guard under Governor Sandoval’s direction would lawfully assemble and tell the Feds to back off. Another option would be for the County Sheriff to assemble a posse and lawfully tell the Feds to get lost. As it is in our modern day the State and the County have been weakened of their sovereignty and rolls as a check on unlimited Federal Government power. The only remaining option may be that free armed Americans stand up against the agents of the Federal Government.
Not many of people know it, but the Bundy Ranch in Nevada is right now basically under siege by FBI and BLM (Bureau of Land Management) ARMED agents. True enough the rancher owes money to the feds, but that DOES NOT justify, taking his cattle of which have grazed on federal lands for years without complaint. Laying siege to his ranch (with Snipers and fully automatic TRUE Assault Rifles), and setting up 'First Amendment Zones' away from the ranch. In fact there have been groups as we see in the video tazed for video/phone recording, and exercising their first amendment rights.The Law Vegas Review-Journal discuses the influx of armed Americans, militiamen, towards the Bundy Ranch hoping to prevent a Ruby Ridge scenario.
In a new development, unorganized militiamen from as far away as Florida are coming to aid the Bundy family and their ranch. I'm not saying this is a good thing only that the feds better be careful how they approach this situation. The best thing to do is have Gov. Sandavol bring in Nevada National Guard to take care of the situation, or the local County Sheriffs office. If not this can only escalate.....hopefully it wont be the opening shots heard around the world in Bunkerville (Eerily similar to Bunker Hill ugh)......but any bloodshed started by the feds will never been forgotten.
armed men are trickling toward Cliven Bundy’s ranch, where the rancher’s fight with the federal government has become a rallying cry for militia groups across the United States.Who the hell is Prepper Chimp?
On Wednesday, that dispute teetered at the edge of deadly conflict, when Cliven Bundy’s family members and supporters scuffled with rangers from the Bureau of Land Management sent to protect the federal roundup of Bundy’s cattle on public land.
One of Bundy’s seven sons was shot with a stun gun, and Bundy’s sister was knocked to the ground; but no one was seriously hurt, and no arrests were made.
By late Wednesday, three militia members — two from Montana and one from Utah — had arrived at the ranch 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. Other militia groups have inundated the Bundy household with calls and pledges to muster at the site. Their stated goal: to protect the Bundys from tyranny.
They say they are prepared for armed confrontation, but they insist they will not be the instigators if bloodshed happens.
Ryan Payne and Jim Lardy, members of the West Mountain Rangers, made the 12-hour drive from western Montana on Tuesday night. Payne is also a coordinator with Operation Mutual Aid, a national association that describes itself as a coalition of state militias.
“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,” Payne said.
He didn’t put a specific estimate on how many militia members may come, but he said the groups expected are from places like New Hampshire, Texas and Florida and could number in the hundreds.
“We need to be the barrier between the oppressed and the tyrants,” he said. “Expect to see a band of soldiers.”
Payne, 30, and Lardy, 49, both wore holstered handguns as they spoke, but they downplayed the display of firepower. They wear their weapons daily.
They say the goals are for no one to be harmed, the Bundy family to be protected, and the Bundy property restored.
For now, the militia members will camp on the Bundy ranch. They say the issue isn’t about cattle or grazing rights; it’s about constitutional rights.
“We’re not anti-government,” said Lardy, who cuts firewood for a living. “We’re anti-corrupt government.”
Stephen Dean, 45, an artist from Utah, said he made the trip in hopes of heading off another Ruby Ridge or Waco, referring to deadly confrontations involving federal agents in Idaho in 1992 and in Texas in 1993.
A member of the People’s United Mobile Armed Services, Dean said he also carries weapons more powerful than his firearms: a camera and the Internet. Those tools will document the plight of the Bundy ranch and bring the issue to light, he said. “I’m here to see it does happen differently.”
Serious bloodshed was narrowly avoided earlier in the day, when a BLM ranger shot Ammon Bundy, a son of Cliven Bundy, with a stun gun during a heated confrontation a few miles from the ranch house.
A YouTube video shows protesters and law enforcement officers yelling and threatening each other as trucks involved in the roundup attempt to drive through. The officers have stun guns drawn, and one is trying to push the crowd back with a barking dog on a leash.
Cheryl Teerlink, said Ammon Bundy was hit by a stun gun in his arm, chest and neck, but he shook off the first attempt to incapacitate him. “I pulled the tasers out of him,” Teerlink said.
Shortly before that, Cliven Bundy’s sister, Margaret Houston, was thrown to the ground by a BLM officer, Teerlink said.
The incident unfolded near the intersection of Gold Butte Road and state Route 170, where protesters gathered after they saw BLM vehicles coming down from the range.
The Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service released a statement confirming that one protester had been stunned. The agencies said the incident started when “a BLM truck driven by a non-law enforcement civilian employee assisting with gather operations was struck by a protester on an ATV, and the truck’s exit from the area was blocked by a group of individuals who gathered around the vehicle.”
According to the statement, peaceful protests have “crossed into illegal activity” in recent days, with people “blocking vehicles associated with the gather, impeding cattle movement, and making direct and overt threats to government employees.”...
Gov. Brian Sandoval on Tuesday slammed the BLM for creating an “atmosphere of intimidation” and called on the agency to dismantle two “First Amendment areas” it set up for demonstrators well away from any roundup activity.
The former federal judge said he told the agency “that such conduct is offensive to me and countless others.”
“No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans,” the Republican governor said.
On Wednesday morning, before news broke of the scuffle between protesters and the BLM, Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nev., sent a statement expressing “great disappointment with the way that this situation is being handled.”
Heller said he spoke to newly confirmed BLM director Neil Kornze and “told him very clearly that law-abiding Nevadans must not be penalized by an over-reaching BLM.”
“After hearing from local officials and residents, and receiving feedback from the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association in a meeting this morning, I remain extremely concerned about the size of this closure and disruptions with access to roads, water and electrical infrastructure,” Heller said. “I will continue to closely monitor this situation, and urge the BLM to make the necessary changes in order to preserve Nevadans’ constitutional rights.”
Christi Turner writes a balanced account in the Goat Blog of the High Country News
“When I decided that I was paying grazing fees for somebody to manage me out of business, I said, ‘Hell no,’ ” Bundy says in a video of a presentation he gave in February. “And what did I tell them? I no longer need your service as a manager over my ranch, and I’m not going to pay you for that no more.”
“As far as I’m concerned,” he adds, “the BLM don’t exist.” The federal government might as well not, either.
Despite a running tab of court injunctions, complaints and conservation conflicts involving the BLM, the National Park Service, Clark County and environmental groups, and nearly $1 million in fines, Bundy has continued to run cattle on the federally-owned Bunkerville Allotment in the southern tip of Nevada, about 100 miles from Las Vegas. Over the years, the Department of Justice has more than once canceled BLM plans to round up the trespass cattle after blatant threats of violence from Bundy and his supporters, says Alan O’Neill, retired superintendent of the Lake Mead National Recreation Area adjacent to the allotment. The sieges at Ruby Ridge and Waco that fueled the ‘90s anti-government militia movement were fresh, he explains. “We were trying everything we could to resolve the issue peacefully. But he got more and more recalcitrant.”
This week, though, the BLM finally began rounding up Bundy’s estimated 900 cattle from a 1,200 square-mile area, putting an end to the illegal grazing once and for all. The agency isn’t saying exactly why now is the time to act; O’Neill suspects that the threat of lawsuit from the Center for Biological Diversity against the local and federal government for not implementing existing court orders may have forced the agency’s hand.
The situation quickly escalated. One of Bundy’s sons was arrested Sunday for refusing to stay off the lands BLM has closed during the cattle roundup. Videos from Wednesday show Bundy family members and supporters, including out-of-state militia members, angrily cursing and gesturing at BLM agents attempting to contain them within a “First Amendment Area” set up for protesting. More out-of-state militia members claim to be on the way, saying “they’re going in with force.” While Gov. Brian Sandoval disapproves of BLM’s handling of the situation, others applauded the agency for showing restraint in the face of threats. It was Bundy’s own promise to “be more physical” with the BLM during the impoundment operation, after all, that led the agency to set up strict public protest areas and press policies in the first place. “This is incendiary stuff,” former Nevada Gov. Richard Bryan said on a Nevada news show Thursday, expressing fear of more violence on the way. “Some of these folks are frankly half a bubble off...People really believe that the federal government has no jurisdiction over anything.”
If you believe in the authority of the federal government over public lands – established unequivocally in the U.S. Constitution – there is ample justification for the impoundment... In 1999, the Nevada District Court permanently banned Bundy from grazing cattle in the area, ordering him to remove them or face a $200 penalty per cow per day. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the injunction. Between 2008 and 2011, the BLM cancelled Bundy’s remaining range improvement authorizations. In 2011 Bundy ignored several court orders, including a notice of impoundment. Over the next two years, the BLM aerially counted first 903, then 729, then 600, then 750 head of cattle, nearly all suspected to belong to Bundy, on land closed to grazing.
Nevada – with the highest percent of federal land of any state – has long been a hotbed of antifederal resentment, especially among cattle ranchers. But even in that universe, the Bundy scenario is extreme among public land ranching battles, says Greta Anderson, deputy director of the Western Watersheds Project, a nonprofit that monitors grazing on Western public lands
“I just hope no one gets hurt, and I hope the cows go off and stay off.”
I don't recall where I got this information but it has the ring of truth.
Here's the facts, as records bear them out. Bundy has provided three different years that his grandfather settled the land...1870, 1877, and 1887...all of which come after the date of Nevada's first range leasing laws went into effect, in 1862. The elder Bundy signed a "100 year lease, in perpetuity." Which means that the succeeding generations can be added to the lease. That lease would have expired in or around 1972, give or take a few years, but that's when Bundy's father signed a new lease...before ceding it to Cliven in about 1976. Because of the law, Bundy had to sign a new lease, which would have taken him through to 2076, unless he broke the lease, or if the land needed to be rested or reclaimed. Now, he quit paying in 1993, because the federal government was given management of the land, and he refused to recognize the federal government. In 1998, the BLM took over management of the land from US Forestry, and designated 196,000 acres of the land that Bundy had been leasing as habitat for endangered species, not only the golden desert tortoise, but several plants, as well. Since Bundy had already voided the lease, due to non-payment, BLM ordered him to vacate the property.
The cattle: Bundy stated several different number of head of cattle he owned...frankly, he doesn't know how many he has. He told BLM in 1998, that he had 196 head...but there's actually more than 900 of them. He doesn't take care of them, partly because the cattle portion of the farm is minor to the family. They grow melons, and other produce. The BLM has reports of many instances of feral cattle, trampling endangered species, and wandering into traffic, or onto private property and doing damage. Bundy has consistently refuse to answer court summons to pay for the damages his cattle are doing.
Bundy assumes that he owes only about 20,000 in back fees. However, because of various court orders, fines, and penalties, he actually does owe over $1million. Partly back leasing fees, partly fines for negligence, and partly fines from the feds. This is the crux of the matter. Everything else is distraction and avoidance.
This is not about the tortoises, or the cows...it's about a family of anarchists, who refuse to follow laws. They have repeatedly threatened law enforcement, the BLM, Forestry agents, land agents, and deputies. They refuse to acknowledge the US government. Kind of like Charles Manson, Tim McVey, Jim Jones or even David Koresh. It's not one man against the feds, there's a huge family on that ranch, armed to the teeth, threatening range war. The DOJ called off an attempt in 2012 to remove the cattle, because of repeated threats of violence. We don't know why this time the feds are seeing it through, but it's very volatile there. Bundy is the one who called in the various militias, and crack head journos are just aiding and abetting him. Keep in mind, on that compound are Bundy, and at least one wife, 14 children, with their spouses, aunts, uncles, cousins, and grandchildren. All told, close to one hundred people, who hate the government.
written by Ken GardnerHappy Tax Day, America! A few things to bring even more joy to your day. One, we already pay more in taxes than food, clothes, and shelter -- combined. Two, we already pay some of the highest corporate tax rates in the world -- either directly or through the prices we pay for goods and services. Three, President Obama thinks we don't pay enough. Not NEARLY enough. He has proposed 442 tax increases (not including Obamacare) since becoming president.
Why do we put up with it? Basically, because we keep on electing and electing Democrats. Why do we do that? Because too many people are too heavily invested in government and the wealth, favors, and power it redistributes, while others are control freaks who want to rule us and think that they can spend your money better than you can.
Tuesday, April 01, 2014
Kevin DeYoung wrote 9 thoughts regarding New Calvinism, Controversy, and Celebrity pastors, but what jumped out at me was what can be applied to the sociopolitical realm.
4. The reach of our repentance should match the reach of our sin. Private sins demand private repentance. Sins that can be seen by many necessitate a repentance that can be seen by many. And while we ought to forgive each other seven times, and seventy times, and even seven times seventy times, looking for the fruit of repentance is not the same as being unforgiving. Ronald Reagan was right: trust, but verify.5. When we criticize others for their faults (real or perceived) let us broadcast the news just as widely when they repent of their faults and correct them. The same is even more true when it turns out we were wrong in our information or accusations. Of all people, Christians should not put the bad news in bold face and the good news in a footnote.6. Discernment is hard work. On the one hand, journalists or bloggers have every right to dig into the facts of some brewing controversy. When the smoke leads you to a fire, let’s not be afraid to sound the alarm. Done in the right spirit, public accountability for public figures is good and right. On the other hand, let’s not fall foul of 1 Corinthians 13 by believing nothing, overlooking nothing, bearing nothing, and hoping for nothing except to find more dirt. How sad it is when a love for the truth becomes a love for exposing thy neighbor.7. Associations are tricky. It does matter with whom you share a platform. Convictions and courage are often compromised by a casual approach to movement building. If you were big buddies with Arius in the fourth century and blurbed all his books, people would be right to ask a few questions. And yet, to throw a movement under the bus for a couple bad bus drivers is not right. The logic which says “John Piper is the father of the New Calvinism, and John Piper did conferences with Mark Driscoll several years ago, and Mark Driscoll is friends with Steven Furtick, therefore the New Calvinism and everyone and everything associated with it is complicit in the worst of evangelical megachurchdom” is reasoning equal parts fallacious and lazy.
While the "Church" is definitely the acceptable term for the body of Christ, and membership within that body usually refer to being a Christian in general, at least as I sculpt a personal lexicon, the word "Church" could easily be used to refer to a denomination (such as the Catholic Church or the Presbyterian Church) as much as the Christian Church, or it can be used to refer to a congregation, as activity within a local church. In other words, activity within a local church refers to fellowship. Fellowship is essential for spiritual health, as Ricky Jones from Gospel Coalition explains, you should engage within the smaller group to more healthily live as a Christian.
First, it's simply not possible. To imply you can be part of the greater community without first being part of the smaller is not logical. You cannot be part of Rotary International without also being part of a local chapter. You cannot be part of the universal human family without first being part of a small immediate family.Second, it's not biblical. Every letter in the New Testament assumes Christians are members of local churches. The letters themselves are addressed to local churches. They teach us how to get along with other members, how to encourage the weak within the church, how to conduct ourselves at church, and what to do with unrepentant sinners in the church. They command us to submit to our elders, and encourage us to go to our elders to pray. All these things are impossible if you aren't a member of a local church. (See 1 and 2 Corinthians, James, Ephesians, 1 and 2 Timothy, and 1 Peter for references.)
Thursday, March 27, 2014
Kamryn Renfro shaved her head because her friend "Delaney Clements, who is fighting cancer... lost her hair after starting chemotherapy." As a consequence her elementary school tossed her out until she comes back wearing a wig.
As a consequence the stupid bureaucrats and no tolerance morons at her craptastic excuse for a school will now be embarrassed by as many people as possible. I am certain these people deserve worse.